An Open Letter to Jess Phillips – #Sniggergate 1 Year On

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Dear Jess,

Can I call you Jess?

It seems a little over-familiar, but for someone that has been so cavalier in her attitude towards my life and that of other men it seems fair. Right?

About a year ago now, you became somewhat ‘Internet famous’ because of hashtag-Sniggergate. This came about because, in a meeting to discuss the marking of International Men’s Day in Parliament (as International Women’s Day had been for many years prior) your response, was to laugh. You even trotted out the tired old joke that ‘Every day is International Men’s Day’.

If that facile dismissal had even a grain of truth to it would men be killing themselves at a rate of three-quarters to four-fifths of the total suicides?

Would intimate partner violence against men (perhaps as much as forty percent of all intimate partner violence) go unaddressed with its charities de-funded and there being virtually no shelters for battered and abused men?

Would the rate of homelessness be so high amongst men if this were true?

Would boys be the ones failing at school and failing to gain access to university and would these problems go so unaddressed for so long?

Even if we entertain the idea that the world is run by men (not a secure thing to assert in a free democracy) it certainly does not seem that it is being run for men.

Would we ignore or laugh at these issues if they afflicted women and girls? I don’t think so.

When you laughed at our pain and problems last year it was deeply affecting for me. It ‘red-pilled’ me, as Internet slang would have it. It finally brought home to me how little anyone cares about men’s pain and problems, even in government – where you are supposedly beholden to care about and care for all the people of our nation.

I suffer from severe depression Jess.

I have been suicidal.

I have seen the problems in our mental health system first hand.

Your contempt for that helped drive me closer to that state another time and I have no doubt it helped push some men over that final, fatal edge at a fragile time in their own lives.

I tried to reach out to you at the time, over social media and elsewhere. I was respectful, even though many were – justly – angry at you. Your response was to block and demonise those you had upset, and you would go on from this to advocate for Internet censorship without acknowledging what you had done or why people might be upset at you.

I hope you’ve changed your mind.

I seem to recall you, at least, admitting that the suicide problem is a serious one. A problem which needs addressing. That’s a small, glacial change, but I’ll take it. Even a crumb of hope, even a tiny shift in attitude. That’s how desperate we all are to be taken seriously, we’ll clutch at straws.

Today we finally see a full and proper discussion of men’s issues in Parliament, an improvement upon the small and unsatisfying examination we had last year – against your protests. Meanwhile, elsewhere, it’s still hard to get the day marked in institutions, universities, schools and the public mindset. So great is the stigma and misrepresentation, even men scoff and undermine it.

I hope you’ll be present for it and I hope you shan’t try to hijack it to talk about women’s issues. Again. You have your own day, your own initiatives; often the full power of the state watching out for women’s problems. Men do not have that. Give us one day.

I hope you’ve learned since last year Jess. I hope you’ve grown, been humbled, and I hope you have remembered that you are supposed to speak for and provide support for everyone. I hope you’ve remembered that Labour is supposed to be the party of equality, fairness, and progress – not a haven for bigotry and sexism – against anyone.

I’m on the left Jess. That’s why I care about men’s issues, my egalitarianism. I would care about the issues of men and boys quite apart from my own experiences with mental health provision for men.

That’s also why you should care. These are beliefs we are supposed to share.

Philip Davies, a Conservative, is not the advocate I would choose for myself – as a leftist – but I’m glad he’s there. Very glad. People like you have made it so that even raising men’s issues is such an unnecessarily contentious and difficult issue that we must choose our allies from rather slim pickings.

I’m still alive Jess, no thanks to you or people like you. Perhaps, in the future, if I should be on that edge again, I’ll still be alive because of people like you fighting for me rather than against me.

I hope you’ve changed.

I hope you’ve learned.

An apology would be nice, to the men of our nation, but even better would be a commitment to take men’s issues seriously. All of them. Not just the undeniable horror of our suicide rate.

Hopefully,

James

#WorldSuicidePreventionDay Male Suicide

DepresyonI know I’ve let this blog lie fallow for a while, other places tend to cover events and controversies before I can and I don’t have much extra to add.

Today is World Suicide Prevention Day though, and more attention has finally be drawn to the issue of male suicide, a topic which has long gone relatively unaddressed and only really began to come to any kind of serious prominence in this country after MP Jess Phillips mocked the issue last International Men’s Day.

The Huffington Post has a short article about this, bemoaning the fact, but also pointing out that we have no specific, real idea as to why men are committing suicide at four times the rate women are – even though women, reportedly, suffer depression more often and attempt suicide more often.

Some of these factors are known, or at least somewhat suggested. Women’s suicide attempts tend to involve less instantly deadly options and may be calls for help. Men’s attempts seem to be more serious and to more often involve things like car crashes, shootings and throwing themselves in front of trains or off buildings.

So why are men killing themselves more and why are they using deadlier methods when they do? Why are they doing it with such conviction when they do?

I suffer from moderate to severe depression and have done for some years now. I’ve been through the rigmarole of therapy, doctors, pills and all the rest and I have, indeed, tried to kill myself a handful of times with varying degrees of seriousness and effort.

My insights are, of course, only my own speculations and observations. Some from personal experience, some from what I’ve studied and learned talking to doctors, psychiatrists and therapists with reference to my treatment, and in general.

There are differences between the sexes, not just in terms of the obvious, but in terms of psychology. These are, of course, broad generalisations, but they are true. There’s arguments over the degree to which there are differences, but few other than the most extreme deny them. The effect of different hormones on behaviour alone are dramatic.

The bell curve regarding most male traits and behaviours tends to be flatter than womens. There are exceptional and unexceptional people of both genders, but more men fail hard or succeed well. More men are very stupid, or very intelligent. More men have autism and more women have borderline personality disorder.

It’s possible that this overall trend affects depression in men too. Perhaps more men suffer more severe forms of depression and more women suffer less severe forms. This seems possible given this overall trend.

It’s true that men seek help less often, but to use that to blame men for their high suicide rate is… unhelpful. It’s also true that the standard kinds of therapies made most readily available are less helpful for men. Talk therapy, for example, is less effective for men and it takes longer for men to unwind and open up. In national healthcare systems which are already stretched and operating on a form of triage, its a one-size fits all system offering one form of therapy less suited to half the population and offering an amount of time per appointment that isn’t long enough to be even minimally useful to men.

There’s a tendency, societally and medically, to try and treat men as though they are broken women. To blame them when things do not work for them, rather than to seek new solutions that might.

I’m far from a conventional masculine man. I work creatively. I’m not ‘handy’. I can’t fix a car and can barely wire a plug. I don’t drink casually. I have no interest in sport. I am far from typical, yet to one degree or another I struggled with all these aspects. If I have had trouble reaching out for help, admitting my diagnosis made sense, dealing with the therapy that was available and the disappointment that it wasn’t helping, looking for other help – each step tortuous and difficult.

How much more difficult for a more conventional man?

How much more difficult for a man who couldn’t afford a private therapist?

How much more difficult for one of the many men not doing so well? The failures without family or friends to support them to the same degree?

Societally I also see problems. The pressures and demands on men have not changed and progressed in the same way that women’s roles have. Men are still expected to provide, protect, to be the emotional rock. Men are still under a huge amount of pressure to succeed, to meet expectations and demands, to self-sacrifice. Men have lost many of the advantages that they once had, but have not lost the commensurate duties and demands that went along with it. Women’s expectations of men have not changed. They still want to partner with a societal equal – minimum – and the shifts in society have left a lot of men behind, with little sympathy and little effort to help them.

Again, I am far from conventional. I work from home, make less than my partner – and that’s fine. I am not particularly bothered by these expectations… yet they are still there. A constant nagging pressure. I should be able to make more money. I should be more successful. I should be able to create another hit concept or IP. I feel the judgement of people who have – miraculously – carved out some kind of ‘normal life’ from all this mess.

There’s a generational gap too. Men’s fathers and grandfathers don’t necessarily understand the problems men face today or the context that they take place in, or even that they are problems at all. Yet I have lost several peers or acquaintances to suicide or drugs and know many (many!) men struggling with varying degrees of depression. The things that were easier in the past – if not simple – such as owning a house, getting an education without crippling debt, job security, a family, all of these are much harder to achieve and, despite perhaps being outdated, are still expected of men.

Attention and awareness of the issue is the first step. Next will, hopefully, comes study that can turn some of these anecdotes and observations into hard facts. Once we have those, perhaps we can begin to make changes that will help reduce the male suicide rate. In the meantime though, encouraging men to seek help, providing help that actually works and trying to find new definitions of masculinity – from and for men and not from feminist theory or treating men as broken women – can’t hurt.

Roosh the Douche, Firme la Bouche

ztK4lH1454441133It’s tiresome, but if I don’t spend a good deal of time pointing out my distaste for Roosh V, then supporting his rights will be seen as supporting him. So here we go.

  • Roosh V is a giant douchebag of the first order.
  • He’s a snake-oil salesman selling dubious ‘pick up’ techniques and peculiar interpretations of ‘traditional masculinity’ (whatever that is) to vulnerable men.
  • If he should be done for anything, it’s fraud – but that’s hard to prove.
  • He’s a creep.
  • He looks like someone shaved an ewok’s body (but not its face) and balanced it on stilts.
  • He oozes smarm and insincerity.
  • I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on him if he were on fire.
  • If he was the next guy in a Human Centipede and try not to poop so I could starve him to death.
  • The man’s a weasel.
  • No Sir, I don’t like him.

I don’t much care for Cernovich either, the opportunistic, buff lawyer who brought this to my attention.

That said. Roosh hasn’t advocated rape. He has written a satirical article about legalising rape on private property, apparently as a way to encourage people to debate taking responsibility for their own safety and care. It was – obviously I had thought when I originally read it – no more a serious proposition than Swift’s famous one, though less ably executed.

Roosh has parlayed a couple of anecdotes around ‘pushing consent’ in his books, which while somewhat disturbing are debatable in their reality and the extent to which they were pushed.

Still, largely on the basis of these things (more the article) the man is being hounded, physically assaulted and there are serious attempts to bar him from even entering several countries (UK, Australia and Canada if memory serves).

This is absurd.

The right to free expression is not some windsock that only blow in the direction of the prevailing loudest objections. It is a vital and necessary right for all of us. Even diarrhoea-spewing nonsense-mongers like Roosh V. We have to extend this right and capacity to everyone so we can shine a light on their nonsense and stop it festering underground, but more than that, so that we preserve our own rights to free expression when they too, inevitably, end up going against the grain.

We live in a time in which there is enormous pressure and threat to free expression and we must be bold and uncompromising in defending it.

Even for people like Roosh.

Especially for people like Roosh.

However much we loathe them.

Observations on #AmberRoseSlutWalk

CQayZ_SUYAAvxnWMost SlutWalks are named after the city that hosts them. This Los Angeles based SlutWalk was named after some minor celebrity I have little to no awareness of called ‘Amber Rose’. This is something of a warning sign and there’s some indication that this was a publicity stunt to help sell a book, rather than a sincere Slut Walk.

I’m not going to comment on much of that, but I did watch the #AmberRoseSlutWalk tag on Twitter while this was ongoing, attempted to engage and debate a few people there and made note of what was being said.

The Wikipedia description given above doesn’t seem to reflect the feelings of many of the participants and supporters on Twitter. Like me, many of them seem to agree with and support the central message that women should be able to wear what they want, conduct themselves how they want and seem to have been sold on the idea that this is a sex-positive, empowering thing for women and an attempt to change attitudes (in men and other women).

So far so good.

On that basis there’s not that much dissent other than trolls and the occasional group of sincere moralisers such as the religious.

However the SlutWalks also seem to get used to push dangerous, fearmongering radical-feminist concepts such as ‘rape culture’ (which cannot meaningfully be said to exist in western nations) the 1/5 rape statistic (amply debunked many times) and to push concepts like Patriarchy, equally lacking in evidence in western nations.

It seems perverse that a movement taken by many to be empowering and fearless is also used to promulgate irrational levels of fear of what remains a fairly rare crime. That doesn’t serve anyone. It harms women by making them needlessly, phobic of men and even afraid to go out and it harms men by creating an atmosphere of fear and hatred around male sexuality as well as contributing to an increasingly hostile work and educational environment for men.

In trying to debate, discuss and to moderate viewpoints on the tag I found, to me relief, that many of the younger women who were participating were more open to discussion and didn’t buy into many of the extremist views. Whether this is because they were drawn to the event by celebrity and a notion of feminism as egalitarianism rather than being part of the modern movement I don’t know, but it was encouraging.

Then there were the rest.

Feminist groups, more strident ‘3.5’ wave pseudeo-feminists and male feminists tended to be of a different character. They were dismissing of any dissenting point of view. They characterised any disagreement as ignorant while simultaneously trotting out the ‘it’s not my job to educate you’ line. They were insulting, resorting instantly to ad hominem and universally refused to back up any of their arguments or claims.

Many parroted one version or another of Lewis’ Law, often taking obvious trolls seriously in the process. Lewis’ Law being the utterly facile assertion that dissent to an article or action justifies that article or action. This is obviously nonsense. People would protest a racist article or a KKK rally and this would do nothing to legitimise the vile views presented in either.

This is less encouraging.

Even less encouraging is that two reporters on the scene as part of a counter protest, Lauren Southern (Rebel Media) and Milo Yiannopoulos (Brietbart) were ejected by police and denied their right of free expression and free assembly, without any decent excuse. Whether you agree with the libertarian or right wing views of them are not (much of the time I do not) it’s disturbing that a protest is being enforced by police to the point of silencing dissenting views (critical of rape culture and the extension of the definition of rape).

This is the aspect of this modern pseudo-feminism that concerns me the most and why this ‘anti-feminist’ entry exists. While this blog is focussed on promoting men’s issues the right to free expression, the right to dissent, access to a free and open internet, the ability to debate, debunk and challenge bad ideas needs to be preserved. These are important things for everyone, not just men, but it seems to be this newish wave of pseudo-feminism that threatens those rights for everyone.

Whether it’s Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn at the UN demanding that international government intervene to stop people criticising them, Arthur Chu demanding that internet hosting companies be held responsible for what other people post on them, Universities implementing safe spaces and trigger warnings or SlutWalks using the police as enforcers to eject counterprotesters these are the rights that many people – including women – fought valiantly to attain and now are being far too easily discarded.

I refuse to believe that women are so weak they cannot experience alternative points of view or vigorous dissent without crumbling and demanding people be silenced.

Men & Intimate Partner Violence

CP3O98AUkAAIduNApparently someone called Miranda Devine wrote a rather repugnant article. You can see the original text under the scribblings on the left-hand side of this post. This article was pretty awful in and of itself, but so is the redone title and so was the response to the mildest protest about the new title.

The original title reads:

“If unsuitable women stopped having kids with feckless men, Domestic Violence wouldn’t be such a problem.”

The ‘corrected’ version reads:

“If men stopped hitting women, domestic violence wouldn’t be such a problem.”

The first is pretty disgusting, but does at least limit it to certain kinds of women involved with certain kinds of men, rather than encompassing whole genders.

The second is, arguably, worse since it’s painting men as a whole as the problem, and characterising Domestiv Violence (Intimate Partner Violence as its more often known now) as exclusively a women’s issue, perpetrated by men.

That is far from the case. Various studies and sources place IPV rates against men anywhere as high as total parity (the same rate of occurrence against men as against women). At the same time, provision of social, legal and political support for men runs at barely 1% – if that – of the support for women. There are virtually no shelters and no provisions such as those that exist for women to aid in getting away from an abuser, getting housing benefit and so on.

The NHS’ sources think that IPV against men runs at about 25%.

You can find some more resource linked at Mankind Initiative.

Wikipedia (always check the sources) links a variety of data sources.

The CDC in the US reckons over 1/4 of men are victims of IPV in their lifetime (as opposed to 1/3 of women).

The Australian Bureau of Statistics estimates about 1/3 men are victims of domestic abuse.

Parity reckons about 40% of IPV victims are male.

Ireland reckons half as many men as women suffer IPV, which is still a significant amount.

The long and the short of it is that domestic abuse against men, under a variety of methods, estimates that men are victims of domestic abuse from around 15% of the total to over 50% of the total with most clustering in the 25%-33% bracket in credible studies going back as far as 1975.

In 2011 (the most complete and up to date statistics I could find) it was recorded that there were over 4,000 shelter places for women and a grand total of 16 for men. The second of these numbers has almost certainly gone down as men’s charities – already struggling for money – have been defunded by the government as part of austerity.

So, to recap, there’s a lot of domestic violence towards men, perhaps even as much as women suffer, but it’s not taken seriously and there’s little to no help for men who suffer it.

So what happened when this data was presented? A sudden wave of skepticism, which I would normally welcome, but from people who will swallow statistics such as the 1/4 rape statistic without a hint of the same skepticism that arises when presented with men’s suffering. It’s hard not to get angry and it’s hard not to be bitter at such hypocrisy.

Their main objection appeared to be an article referring to the Australian data above, stating that the definition was unclear (true, this is often a problem with these kinds of surveys on intimate violence and rape) and that it had a wide margin of error (as much as 50%). What they failed to realise as that a margin of error cuts both ways, it might be over-reporting by 50% or under-reporting by the same amount. Placing the total percentage of Australian men suffering IPV between 16% and 50% – which would still be consistent with other studies in other countries and would still not be an insignificant number at all. Australian provision for men suffering IPV is – again – abysmally low, but there’s a good list of services for Australia here.

Statistics on these topics are notoriously unreliable, for male and female IPV, but the same problems of wording, activist pseudo-science and people’s reluctance to admit they’re being abused afflict studies in the same way. Whatever the true numbers are – and some genuine academic studies need to be conducted without bias – it is clear that men are suffering significantly. Perhaps as much as women. Men are also facing a big barrier, in addition to shame, emasculation and societal pressure. The services that do exist, the lobbies that are established treat IPV as a women’s issue, a feminist issue and are often caught up entirely in that ideology. Men who need help are likely to be suspected of being the perpetrators, due to this bias, and those who advocate for them are likely to be accused of undermining support for women, hiding (or even engaging in apologetics for) the abuse women get, and worse.

There is no reason men and women alike can’t get support through increased provision for both. It doesn’t have to take away from support for women and even if it did, the total number of people helped would remain the same. perhaps even be higher due to the economy of scale.

Men need advocacy, and feminist activists need to stop treating the abuse of men as a joke, or a threat to women.

Everyone deserves support.

Out of Bad Touch – Sex Work & Feminist Divisions

Paris Lees at her old schoolParis Lees has a good article over on Vice (I know! Vice!) objecting to the current push from a certain faction of feminists for the ‘Nordic Model’ in the criminalisation of sex work, not by attacking the sex workers themselves (which is a good thing) but by attacking the clients (which isn’t really any better).

People concerned with the liberty and freedom of sex workers, especially if men, are often cheaply attacked on that basis as though the only reason to stand up for a sex worker’s liberty would be to partake of their services. Men who do so are often tarred as ‘black knights’ (if you will), with their opposition apparently of the mistaken belief that standing up for sex workers on Twitter will earn you a discount.

Ms Lees makes some very good points, all of them around the disconnect between what she calls ‘White Feminists’ (deliberately capitalised) and those living the life on the ground.

I’ve witnessed this myself on social media, the damning and ignoring of sex workers (whether in prostitution or pornography), the accusations that they do not know their own mind, that they could not possibly know their own work or that ‘White Feminists’ know what is best for them and they must submit to their betters. One need only look to Gail Dines’ recent clashes with Mercedes Carrera on Twitter to see this in action.

It never seems to occur to people like Dines that men – and women – may hate them because they are a cunt, rather than because they have one.

I don’t think Ms Lees goes far enough. We see this arrogance in all manner of ‘Social Justice’ interventions with ‘White Feminists’ or their equivalents of equal capitalisation, interfere in the habits, pastimes and harmless vices of others on the presumption that they know better.

Indeed this same principle can be applied to those who think they know what’s best for men and in regard to men’s issues, which is, after all, the thrust of this blog.

I think sex workers can be trusted to know what is best for them – and what they truly believe and feel.

I think the same can be said for most groups.

Even men.

#Rape – SurvivorsUK Faces Funding Cut

First the important and ‘good’ stuff.

UPDATE: You can donate HERE.

Survivors UK is a rare beast, a charity concerned with male victims of rape. Statistics are notoriously hard to come by on the incidence of male rape and men are even less likely than women to report sexual violation, but in the United States it has been suggested that – if you include prison rape – men may be even more likely to suffer a sexual violation than women.

Despite this there’s precious little support for male victims of sexual violation (or domestic abuse for that matter).

As such, Survivors UK deserves our support, fundraising efforts and perhaps most importantly, awareness raising.

Despite being interested in these topics, I was virtually unaware of the existence of Survivors UK so, clearly, there needs to be consciousness raising of their efforts and increased support from the Men’s Human Rights/Men’s Issues communities, as well as anyone with a conscience.

However, sadly, Survivors UK has had their funding cut to nothing.

There is a petition to protest this and as well as the Twitter link above you can check out their website. Please add this resource to your men’s issues blogs and websites as a link to raise them in the Google search rankings and to raise their profile so that men who have suffered sexual violation have more chance of finding them.

Thank you.

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Now the less good stuff.

I found out about Survivors UK and their funding crisis via an awful, awful article in The New Statesman by June Eric-Udorie.

The overwhelming majority of the article was not concerned with Survivors UK or their funding crisis, but rather with bashing Men’s Human Rights movement and accusing them of the usual laundry list of complaints, misrepresentations and so on. I’ll answer that part of the article below:

Recent government statistics estimate that 75,000 men are victims of sexual assault or attempted assault and 9,000 men are victims of rape or attempted rape every year. Yet, despite the figures, dangerous stereotypes still persist that men can’t get raped and we can’t seem to break the taboo around the subject.

Sadly, feminism is not helping that. There have been efforts in some countries to prevent ‘made to penetrate’ being counted as rape and concepts such as patriarchy and privilege undermine the idea that men can also be victims, that they can be powerless, that they can be victimised. Feminist rhetoric also dominates the public conversation on these topics and does little or nothing to tackle men’s issues by leveraging that privilege and power. Even when it does mention these issues, it becomes twisted with ideological dogma (patriarchy theory) and ends up being used as a club to further beat men with – precisely as has occurred in this article.

I am outraged and we all should be. Survivors UK run a vital service for men who have been affected by sexual abuse and if it shuts, this will affect countless men in London. But perhaps what makes me angrier is that so few men and men’s rights activists (more commonly known as MRAs online) have condemned this.

It’s good that you’re outraged. Hopefully that outrage will carry you forward to examine other men’s issues and get angry about those too but I shan’t be holding my breath. Personally, I am incredibly angry that you used this outraged animus less to help Survivors UK and to highlight men’s issues but rather to bash further on men and their advocates, who have been fighting for funding and attention on this and similar issues for years.

I didn’t know about this issue, despite being interested and involved in Men’s Issues and I had to hear it from you, contained within rabid misandry that honestly made me suspect that Survivors UK might not be a good charity to back – if someone like you thought they were worthwhile.

Why didn’t I know about it?

Why doesn’t this story have a higher profile?

Why was the funding cut in the first place?

Because these issues aren’t considered important, aren’t communicated, aren’t made public and this is largely down to feminist domination of the discourse on the issue and the dismissive attitude even you still show, despite claiming to be upset about this.

I’m always being told that feminists don’t give a shit about issues like male rape or suicide. In fact, our detractors contend, feminists don’t give a shit about men. In case you missed the memo, feminists hate men. At least that’s the impression that we get from anti-feminist men and MRAs, mostly active on the web where they moan about men being oppressed because obviously, being a man is so hard these days.

And they say this with good reason. I would refer you to the above comments and the continual dismissal, laughing at and undermining of men’s issues. Again, you, yourself, used an article ostensibly about the scandal of this charity being defunded, primarily to attack men and men’s advocates. Part of the problem.

And yes, being a man is hard these days, not that it was ever easy. People don’t appreciate how hard.

Yes, there are issues that predominantly affect men like homelessness and suicide, but surely it’s a no brainer that both men and women suffer in our patriarchal society – one that prizes masculinity and expects only three things of women: to get married, get fucked and have babies.

You’re advocating part of the problem when you bring up ‘patriarchy’. A nonsensical conspiracy theory that blames everything on men and which simultaneously claims that men control and run society for their benefit, yet are harmed by it, which would mean it couldn’t be a patriarchy.

Are there patriarchal societies historically and in the contemporary world? Sure. Here in the west? No.

Masculinity isn’t a dirty word and is not the only thing valued. Our society does not only expect women to get married, get fucked and have babies but it does still expect men to self-sacrifice, protect and provide and that comes as much from women as anything else.

However, Paul Elam, the founder of A Voice for Men, disagrees and told the Huffington Post that “the problem we see is a culture that puts women first in so many ways and men last”. Men’s Rights Canada launched their controversial “Don’t be that Girl” campaign, which said that women often make false rape accusations because they feel guilty for having one night stands. And on Return of Kings, when commenting on the statistic that 90 per cent of women know the perpetrators in rape cases, a contributor wrote that “a man looking to rape someone would not pick a target who could identify him to the police”. The focus from men’s rights activists seems to be on false rape accusations by women (which are far and few) rather than helping male victims of sexual violence.

Paul Elam and A Voice for Men are not the only face of Men’s Issues, any more than Cathy Brennan is the voice of all feminism – though Elam and AVFM are a hell of a lot more sane than she is. While I appreciate the work of AVFM in many instances I felt they were too strident and made too many of the same mistakes feminism has over the years, which is why I decided to create this space for myself. CAFE, Honey Badger Brigade, KSUMen and other groups are also more moderate and measured than AVFM is.

Even though I part company with AVFM and prefer to set my own tone, I must defend them – and others – when they are attacked and misrepresented as you have done here. Don’t be that Girl was a much broader campaign than you represent and was a reaction to a disgustingly misandrist campaign in their province that was essentially assuming any and all men were rapists-in-waiting who had to be told not to.

Return of Kings is NOT an MHRA website, as has been repeatedly made clear both by RoK and AVFM in the wake of the Mad Max stupidity.

False rape accusations are an issue, as are many other things coming out of feminist activism on these issues – such as advocacy of removing basic rights from men (such as being considered innocent until proven guilty when accused of rape). It’s unsurprising that a large amount of Men’s Issues Activism is fixated on at least preserving existing rights against assault.

The reality is that MRAs are a group of misogynists who spend their time on the internet saying things that simply aren’t true or attacking women. The Southern Poverty Law Centre describes their activism as “dedicated to savaging feminists and in particular, women”. MRAs do not really care about men. They resent feminists not only because their campaign to get rid of Page 3 denied them their daily wank at the breakfast table, but also because every step forward in achieving gender equality, where women are not a subclass of fuckable objects, is a disadvantage in their eyes. And sadly, their resentment towards the fight for the liberation for women does not actually make any difference to the men they are trying to help. I’m sure than men who genuinely believe in gender equality must be fed up with their rhetoric that the reason why men are “suffering” is because of women.

These are standard talking points, all debunked at length on various Men’s Issues sites. Here’s the short version.

  • Misogyny means the hatred of women. While I’m sure there are genuine misogynists within the MHRA there are also genuine misandrists within the feminist movement. Neither should be taken as representative of the whole. The MHRA movement does not hate women, there is a distinct difference between hating a particular wave of feminism (the ideology) and women (the human beings).
  • The SPLC gets constantly quoted in reference to the MHRA but is not particularly credible. It’s specific claims upon which it based its conclusions have been debunked and while not mentioned here it is often said the SPLC called the Men’s Movement a hate group, when it did not.
  • The objection to the NMP3 campaign is to preserve free expression and because it hurts absolutely nobody. It is an overreach by sex-negative current-wave feminists also resisted by free-speech advocates and sex positive feminists.
  • We already have gender equality in the west – would be the argument of the Men’s Movement and it’s not equality that’s the issue to any MHRA I’ve ever talked to. It’s where things go past that point and begin harming the other sex. It is even arguable that women now have more rights than men in the west as they have every right men do, but also have reproductive and bodily integrity rights that men don’t, as well as having degrees of legal advantage based solely on gender in arenas such as custody battles. It’s also arguable that in a non-rights, non-legislative arena that women also now have enormous advantage, up to and including a reversal of the ‘pay gap’ which doesn’t really exist in the first place. Not to mention – relevant to this article – a stranglehold on funding for dealing with sexual and domestic assault.

Challenging why a Men’s Movement might spend time fighting against feminism is like asking an anti-fac group why they spend time fighting Stormfront when they could just be helping minorities. Defending against incursions on rights and the victimisation of men does help men.

For instance, on “The Rights of Man”, Skimmington writes that all-women shortlists for political selections mean that “men are banned (in Labour’s case) from standing for Parliament solely because they are men”. I guess I didn’t notice the men who are MPs for the Labour Party. Paul Elam once wrote on “A Voice for Men” that drunk women were “freaking begging to be raped”.

Would an ‘all male’ shortlist or an ‘all white’ shortlist be acceptable?

No it would not.

Why not?

Racism/sexism.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

If there are male MPs it is because they won their selection processes and got elected. There is not and has not been anything barring women from pursuing the same aim. Gender-limited selection lists, however, do bar people on the basis of gender and since they suggest women can’t win and get elected on their own merits, you would think that feminists might be against it.

It seems that if men and MRAs aren’t writing, and let’s be honest, complete bullshit, they are attacking women. Men’s rights activist and founder of Justice for Men and Boys (and the women who love them), Mike Buchanan, has accused the founder of the Everyday Sexism Project, Laura Bates of lying because she talks about sexism and the disproportionate effects it has on women compared to men. He also gives out “awards” to feminists for “lying”. Men on the internet can send the feminist campaigner, Caroline Criado-Perez online abuse detailing how they want to kill, mutilate and rape her, interspersed with complaints about the inequalities that men face and how men are neglected. But do we see them taking any action?

While there are sometimes valid points on #EverydaySexism, sexism is also something suffered by men, but any posting of sexism men face to that tag is met with derision and is minimised or dismissed. Most of what’s on there is what Hirsi-Ali calls ‘Trivial bullshit’, extremely subjective, or describes what might also be termed ‘female privilege’.

I’m not a huge fan of Buchanan either, while he’s often right on the statistics he comes across as rather pompous and fits a stereotype which doesn’t help the cause of men’s issues. People do, however, lie for social advantage, especially in relation to social activism. Look at Rachel Dolezal, Anita Sarkeesian or Brianna Wu and you see this is not that rare a phenomenon in activists with a large media footprint.

We do see men taking action, but we often only hear about it when people like you write a bashing article like this. When the funding has already been withdrawn. You’re not interested in reporting on Men’s Issues group when they’re trying to do something – or succeeding.

As to Perez, she got two harmless, mentally unstable people imprisoned for trolling that could easily have been ignored. She’s hardly the poster-child you want here since she’s an authoritarian bully with all the net-savvy of a spoon.

Since the funding for Survivors UK was cut, Michael May started a petition calling for proper funding for men’s services. Since he started it, another one was initiated by Andy Keene asking that the Diversity and Equalities Officer of Goldsmith’s University be sacked. Bahar Mustafa created an event and asked that men did not attend because she wanted to create a safe space for black and minority ethnic women. That petition had over 23,700 signatories compared with the just over 3,900 signatories of the Survivors UK. It’s hard not to draw conclusions about the relative weight given to these two issues from this.

Which one had the higher media profile and why?

Mustafa is a horrific racist who has been defended to the hilt by ‘progressive’ activists such as yourself. The double standard riles people up and the hypocrisy created a media storm that drew people’s attention. In contrast, I only heard about Survivors UK from you.

The idea that the world doesn’t revolve around men’s needs is inconceivable for MRAs, and that is why they try and get women to shut up, painting misogyny as the righteous option in the process. Men’s rights activists forget that the feminist fight for equality will benefit us all. As Laura Bates, the founder of the Everyday Sexism Project has said, “It’s not about men against women but people against prejudice”.

It doesn’t. Men’s Issues campaigners well know this. In fact, the world sees men as disposable, as being unworthy and unneeding of help and you’ve done nothing to change that with this article.

MHRAs don’t want women to shut up, they want militant, radical feminists who are harming men (and women) to be pushed back against in order to preserve everyone’s freedom and to allow Men’s Issues to be honest addressed.

Feminists don’t seem to fight for equality in this current wave (smaller, less public divisions of the movement notwithstanding). MHRAs do actually seem to be invested in equality by comparison. If equality will truly benefit us all then you should be working alongside the Men’s Human Rights Movement, not against it. If you dismiss anti-feminist concerns, perhaps you should examine your own prejudices against the MHRA, since they mirror one another.

It is about people against prejudice, and the prejudice against men – exemplified in this godawful article – is a prime example.

All sides can do better.

Pax.

#Feminism – An Informal survey on the nature of Feminism in the public discourse

f9afe7dabd37df1b841268aa4e4400a6Explanation

My criticism and hostility towards current, 3.5 wave’ feminism has come under fire and I would like to substantiate my position and check it to ensure that my contentions are reasonably accurate.

As I have described elsewhere, when I criticise ‘feminism’ it is the kind of feminism that I encounter every day. The #killallmen hashtags, the misrepresentations about a supposed boycott of the Mad Max movie, moaning about comic book covers and trying to have them changed, supporting the government in its restriction of free sexual expression and so forth.

semenNow, obviously I have developed some confirmation bias on this score and my personal, anecdotal sampling tends to centre around cultural and artistic conflict. I am, in other words, an unreliable narrator on this issue.

Sadly I don’t have access to third parties to ‘check my work’, so I’ve tried to devise at least a crude method for checking my own biases.

Method

The BBC is, remarkably, still a fairly respected source of news and information and a search on the BBC News site returns relevant and popular results without being skewed by my personal bias in the way a logged-in Google search would.

As such I simply searched for the term ‘feminist’ on the BBC news site and surveyed the top 100 returned results – presumed to be the most relevant if not necessarily the most current (some went back to the 1990s).

I then assigned each search return to a category:

Historical: Looks back on previous feminist or pre-feminist waves such as the suffragettes. I do not consider these relevant when discussing modern feminism.

Puff: Any returned hit without substance for the debate. This included obituaries and ‘clickbait’ style pieces that never got into any subtance.

Supporting: Anything that supported my contention that modern feminism is prescriptive, authoritarian, censorious, propagandist etc.

Confounding: Anything that confounded that contention.

Flaws

A single person, working alone on a Sunday morning with his dander up is not the most objective method by which to categorise pieces and I am sure there would be disagreement on some of these issues. For example I would regard the imprisonment of Criado-Perez’ trolls as supporting my contention, while others might see it as a genuine feminist issue. I would also consider several of the pieces I’ve filed under ‘puff’ to be examples of what Hirsi-Ali calls ‘trivial bullshit‘ and, as such, to support my contention, but in an attempt to be fair if there was any question I characterised them as ‘puff’.

I also have not had time, at this juncture, to listen to every podcast/program in detail and have had to make a decision based on the show notes and the profile or professed beliefs of panelists or the described topic.

Public fights over feminism have been considered supporting where one side agrees with my contention, as it demonstrates the conflict goes beyond my own, personal perception. EG: Even though I don’t agree with Mike Buchanan on a great deal, his existence and profile is indicative of a broader social conflict which supports my position.

News services have decreasing relevance, which is another factor. Social media campaigns are much more indicative but impractical to survey in this manner and I don’t think there’ll be much opposition to the thought that social media is even more rife with this brand of feminism, often in the form of hashtag campaigns such as the aforementioned #NotAllMen or others such as #YesAllWomen, #HeForShe, #ToTheGirls and it goes on and on and on.

Results

Historical: 15
Puff: 21
Supporting: 45
Confounding: 19

Of those which are relevant (supporting/confounding), my contention is supported by 70.3125% of BBC search hits.

It’s worth noting that of the 19 confounding results, many were repeats and 12 (over 60%) were non-western in origin, coming from places where equality is still quite distant.

1. Editor’s Choice – Second Wave Feminism (historical).
2. Editors Choice – The Age of Reason (historical).
3. #BBCtrending – Women Against Feminism (supporting).
4. Books and Authors Podcast: Open Book: Kamila Shamsie; young feminist writing (supporting).
5. Eve Ensler on trafficking drama and why Mad Max is feminist (supporting).
6. Spotlight: Caryl Churchill (supporting)
7. Jeremy Vine’s Being Human Podcast: Caitlin Moran (supporting).
8. Helen Skelton: Children do not look for role models in books (supporting).
9. Books and Authors Podcast: Open Book: A Book of One’s Own Part 3 & Crime ficiton: Too gory? (Historical).
10. Talking Books at Hay Festival (supporting).
11. Woman’s Hour: Weekend Woman’s Hour: Anita Dobson, Jodi Piccoult (Puff).
12. Call Yourself a Feminist (historical).
13. Feminist Comedian claims Uni Gig pulled over feminist threat (supporting).
14. Student Showcases feminist art (puff).
15. French feminist challenges greens (supporting).
16. Leading Japanese feminist dies (puff).
17. Victorian feminist celebrated (historical).
18. #BBCtrending: Feminist Hacker Barbie (confounding).
19. Coelho savages feminist nightmare (supporting).
20. Mary Wollenstonecraft, Britains first feminist (historical).
21. Hardtalk: Kat Banyard, Feminist Author (supporting).
22. Paris Brudge named after feminsit (puff).
23. Home town finds feminist painting (puff).
24. Egypt feminist in presidency bid (confounding).
25. Feminist writers appeals for protection (confounding).
26. Egyptian feminist threatened with divorce (confounding).
27. Bangladesh police hunt feminist writer (confounding).
28. Same story repeated (confounding).
29. Same story repeated (confounding).
30. US Masters draw feminist ire (supporting).
31. Women banned from feminist show (confounding).
32. West Yorkshire’s first feminist (historical).
33. Suffragette to open London Film festival (historical).
34. The Interview Archive: Natasha Walter, feminist (supporting).
35. Call yourself a feminist: Episode 1 (historical).
36. US feminist Friedan dies aged 85 (puff).
37. Egyptian feminist faces apostasy trial (confounding).
38. Egyptian feminist faces ISlamic divorce case (confounding).
39. Feminist icon French dies at 79 (puff).
40. Call yourself a Feminist: Episode 3 (supporting).
41. Call yourself a Feminist: Episode 2 (historical).
42. Is Jane Eyre a feminist icon? (puff).
43. How Iran’s feminist genie escaped (historical).
44. Killing Star on challenging feminist views (puff).
45. Feminist academic Germaine Greer assaulted (puff).
46. Bangladeshi feminist writer goes back to exile (confounding).
47. Egytpian Feminist: Parents encouraged me to rebel (confounding).
48. Volleyballers’ bikini bottom ads criticised by feminist (supporting)
49. Danish feminist group claims Little Mermaid beheading (supporting).
50. Hardtalk: Gloria Steinem (supporting).
51. Same story repeated (supporting).
52. Open Book: Kamila Shamsiel Young feminist writing (supporting).
53. London Fashion Week 2015: Is fashion feminist (supporting).
54. #BBCtrending: China’s feminist five and homophobia in Iceland (confounding).
55. Sweden feminist party’s 2010 equal pay protest (supporting).
56. Election 2014: Feminist meets Justice for Men leader (supporting).
57. In Toronto with the world’s feminist pornographers (supporting).
58. BBC Learning English – US feminist Betty Friedan dies (puff).
59. Twitter abuse pair jailed over threats to feminist (supporting).
60. Knickers used by artist for York feminist carnival (puff).
61. Feminist video-games talk cancelled after massacre threat (supporting).
62. Pair jailed over abusive tweets to feminist campaigner (supporting)
63. Baby it’s cold outside: the feminist version (supporting).
64. Tweets to feminist campaigner Criado-Perez – two charged (supporting).
65. Two guilty over abusive tweets to feminist campaigner (supporting).
66. Books and Authors Podcast: Open Book: A history of women’s writing, Ross Raisin (historical).
67. Ukraine’s Femen: Topless protests ‘help feminist cause’ (supporting).
68. Nuns meet with Vatican over ‘radical feminist’ accusations (confounding).
69. Gloria de Piero MP on feminist Mary Wollstonecraft (historical).
70. Baby it’s cold outside: The feminist version (supporting).
71. Feminist site attacked on International Women’s Day (supporting).
72. So is Andy Murray a feminist icon now? (puff).
73. All about that Bass: The feminist business parody (supporting).
74. Theresa May slaps down ‘feminist bigots’ (supporting).
75. ‘We must end feminist bigotry’ is the headline (supporting).
76. Did David Cameron refuse to wear feminist T-shirt? (puff).
77. Bangladeshi feminist comes out of hiding for court appearance (confounding).
78. Feminist T-shirt sweatshop claims denied by Fawcett Society (supporting).
79. Is explicit funk carioca Brazil’s new feminist movement? (puff).
80. Feminist initiative shakes up politics in Sweden and Norway (supporting).
81. Leading writer and feminist Elaine Morgan dies aged 92 (puff).
82. Woman’s Hour – The Catholic Feminist (confounding).
83. Helen McFarlane – the radical feminist admired by Marx (historical).
84. Leading writer and feminist Elaine Morgan dies aged 92 (puff).
85. Feminist author Alice Walker on women, aortion and ageing. (Puff).
86. Woman’s Hour: Feminist movement re-evaluated; Parenting classes (supporting).
87. Talking Books: Germaine Greer (supporting).
88. Woman’s Hour: Author Abi Morgan, Italy’s Feminist Emergency (confounding)
89. Same story (confounding).
90. In pictures: A male feminist’s view on African women (puff).
91. Woman’s Hour- 80s feminist agenda (historical).
92. Plea to call off Miss World feminist protest in London (supporting).
93. Front Row: Alan Cumming; Marlowe’s Edward II, new feminist comedians. (Supporting).
94. Wizard of Oz’s Dorothy was ‘first feminist role model’ (puff).
95. Woman’s Hour: Girl summit; Carolyn Forche, Tartan; feminist marketing (confounding).
96. Did a feminist abort her baby because it was a boy? (supporting).
97. Woman’s Hour: Representation of Sikh women, Cyber feminist Eva Pascoe (puff).
98. Alison Wolf on feminist help for women in low paid jobs (supporting).
99. Woman’s Hour: Women who leave their children, feminist Catharine McKinnon (supporting).
100. Alison Wolf on feminist help for women in low paid jobs (supporting).

#IStandWithDan – Men’s Mental Health

JTSxICfxAs I write this, Dan Perrins is on hunger strike in Canada, having completed a 75 mile walk with his dog, Jeb (who hopefully isn’t also on hunger strike), to try and raise awareness and money for men’s mental health issues. Dan has done this to commemorate his brother, who committed suicide, and for the memory of Earl Silverman whose frustrated efforts over years to open a domestic violence shelter for men contributed to his suicide.

I don’t know Dan that well, but I’ve heard him speak on videos and had a few exchanges on Twitter and he’s a sincere guy, carrying a lot of pain. His demands are really not too extreme. All he asks is that domestic violence shelters for men be set up (currently there are none in Canada) and that existing laws be enforced when it comes to the slander and libel of men’s issues organisations trying to work on these issues. He also asks to be allowed to address the legislature there about these issues and men’s mental health issues as a whole.

It has been suggested via the group Parity that 40% or more of Intimate Partner Violence incidents are ones where men are the victims, but men are largely invisible as victims of this violence. Men are less likely to ask for help, to confide that they’re being emotionally, verbally or physically abused. A combination of traditional masculinity taken to extremes and indifference from a female-oriented system of dealing with these issues catches male victims between two stereotypes and leaves them with little recourse.

Men commit suicide at a rate over three times higher than women do in Canada, and this is mirrored around the world at varying rates. Yet little is done. Women are more likely to access mental health services and are more likely to be prioritised in mental health services. With services still under a financial squeeze and with mental health services being expensive and long term, they’re often the first to be cut.

Mental health and domestic violence are two areas in which men, unquestionably, are suffering and need attention and targeted funding. Whatever your ideology or gender-politics alignment sheer pragmatism and compassion demands we address male suicide and lack of shelters.

Sadly, predictably, Dan’s efforts and sacrifice are being abused and second guessed already, but I – at least – wish him luck and hope that the politicians there will come around to pay attention to this and to give him a chance to speak, at the very least.

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